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Offline Dark Omen

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Pikemen, do they work?
« on: August 14, 2019, 06:42:05 PM »
I have recently built a Dogs of War army and I am trying out four Pikemen units in a mainly Infantry based force.

Try as I might, I can't seem to get them to work. They die very quickly to enemy charges, as they have very wide flanks that are hard to protect. Their inability to support other infantry or be supported by them makes them very fragile.

I generally run two brigades side by side, each brigade has one unit of Crossbowmen in front of 2 units of Pikemen with a unit of Swordsmen protecting the exposed flank.

Typically the enemy charges the Crossbows and Swordsmen, kills them and then falls back, as the Pikemen cannot lend a hand in support. Next turn the enemy flanks the Pikemen with cavalry and rolls up the line.

Does anyone have any advice on how to make Pikemen work?

I'm considering house ruling that the "no support" rule is ignored, so that they operate like other infantry, just based along the short edge. This would actually make charging a unit with Pikemen in support a daunting prospect, instead of an easy kill as it currently stands.

All feedback appreciated.


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Re: Pikemen, do they work?
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2019, 08:12:40 PM »
I don't see any point in putting xbowmen in fornt of the pikemen. When charged you waist fragile xbowmen as well as the pikemen who cannot lend them support nor use their main strength - twice as many stands in combat against common infantry.
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Offline adaird153

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Re: Pikemen, do they work?
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2019, 06:18:42 PM »
I mainly use Pike in Warmaster Ancients but the same principle applies - they can take support from Flanking stands and, of course, they count as defended if charged frontally by cavalry/chariots which is quite an advantage. Just spread your brigades out with xbow on the flanks to keep the cavalry away!

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Re: Pikemen, do they work?
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2019, 08:06:04 PM »
There was a purposed change to pikemen in Rev, it didn't pass though as we came up with another option 0eopke liked better (and it was never put up for a vote).

I think it bpiled down to pikemen getting the charge bonus when charged.