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Offline Kesseki

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Re: French Houserules
« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2012, 07:05:23 PM »
Thank you very much, now i see the light :-), i am very tired today and i only understand single orders XD

Your arguments absolutelly convince me!, because i see a hard testing work behind your rules.

Just informing you about my intention in W-Acolytes (our warmaster spanish forum that you can see on my sign) is trying to use the WAB core rules with WM army lists in the same way that french rules ^_^

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Re: French Houserules
« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2012, 08:42:21 PM »
But with A) There is the problem that units evading through friendly units also confuse them while doing so, dont they?
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Re: French Houserules
« Reply #17 on: September 26, 2012, 09:07:07 PM »
No. They get confused  8)

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Re: French Houserules
« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2012, 12:35:27 AM »
I downloaded the rules. I can't read very much french, sorry, I just don't have a mind for languages. I did however flip through the pages. It is put together very nice. There are in my opinion, I didn't see a siege section or ships or some of the other stuff that is in the main rulebook. Yes that is my opinion, I an not saying that you guys and girls haven't done a great job, you have, you have done a fantastic job. I personally woulike to see the rules from Warmunster 2 in there as well...... long story short. When I print off my rules again, I don't want to have to print off 6 documents just for one rule book. Anyways I am drifting off topic here. Sorry. You all have a heck of a job on the rule books and the two campaigns. They look very professional.

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Re: French Houserules
« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2012, 06:41:11 AM »
Thank you for the comments guys :)

@Kane:
You are right, a single document is better.
But time is short and work takes time. So we had to create a single document what is used 99% by french community and without that extra 1% that takes like 30% of the effort... And that 99% is core-rules plus army lists.
French players don't play with ship rules, play sieges very rarely and not always with the same rules (WM original rules, WMA Medieval extension rules, custom-rules...). Adding them to WMMF is a lot of efforts for low value. Maybe later ;) FYI we have WMA Mediavel siege rules translated and extended for Fantasy (flyers and magic) and with rules slightly changed (the original rules are good but the support rules are unbalanced in some situations), I've added a link to this.
Scenarii are missing, definitely, and will be added later.

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Re: French Houserules
« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2013, 10:29:36 PM »
Hi, is Scourge or Magic Campaign (2011-2012) still active in 2013? and is the flag [FMD]-scenarios in warmaster.fr forum?

another question, is wrath of Nagash an event for 2013 or a campaing?

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Re: French Houserules
« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2013, 09:13:58 PM »
Hi, is Scourge or Magic Campaign (2011-2012) still active in 2013? and is the flag [FMD]-scenarios in warmaster.fr forum?

another question, is wrath of Nagash an event for 2013 or a campaing?

Hi :)

Scourge of Magic was a 2011-2012 campaign. It is over.
Wrath of Nagash is a mini-campaign (shorter, less events, less rules) and is still ongoing until end of mai.

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Re: French Houserules
« Reply #22 on: May 15, 2014, 07:42:41 PM »
Updated to add Nagash Wrath Event (2013) material.

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Re: French Houserules
« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2014, 09:36:06 PM »
Hi Vincent,

I just read through the first few chapters and did spot a few things in the latest version of the rules that is not in WMA (at least now where I searched for them):
- Enveloping charge: if a unit charges another unit in the flank and this charged unit is in line then the charging unit has the option to envelope during the charge move.
- Units with 360* vision: apparently they can only use the front and the back to shoot, not the flanks. I guess this is a house rule as well? I get the point for infantry units but I don't get it for cavalry such as empire pistoliers. Their flank is bigger than the front so this rule seems somewhat disadvantageous for them.
- Shooting: an entire stand's front should see the target unit if it wants to shoot. Otherwise the unit cannot shoot. This is probably to avoid cascading shooters. I didn't spot that in the Ancients rules either.

I certainly see the point in these rules - and can very well imagine how they came to be. Maybe it's interesting to share them with the community as well?

I only got round to printing the rules out now, let alone translating them. So this will really become a long-term project  :(

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Re: French Houserules
« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2014, 09:39:29 PM »
Those are not community rules but the WMA amendments. See http://www.ricks-warmaster.com/ricks_updates-variants01.htm
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Re: French Houserules
« Reply #25 on: October 08, 2014, 10:41:28 PM »
Whoa that enveloping rule is a real game changer?
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Re: French Houserules
« Reply #26 on: October 08, 2014, 10:55:53 PM »
Not really.
It is useful mostly useful for skirmishers flanking normal infantry (because they have low Att). It could be nice also for strong infantry flanking other infantry. But often your prefer not to envelop and keep the supports since it is more reliable.

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Re: French Houserules
« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2014, 10:00:28 PM »
Those are not community rules but the WMA amendments. See http://www.ricks-warmaster.com/ricks_updates-variants01.htm
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OK thanks. Again these french rules are a great piece of work!

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Re: French Houserules
« Reply #28 on: November 03, 2014, 11:17:52 PM »
Hi there,

I have another small question on the french rules. I did not find the rules on how a unit should evade during the initiative move. Is this still "directly away from the enemy" as in the basic rules or has this part been left out on purpose?

or maybe I missed it?

Thanks,

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Re: French Houserules
« Reply #29 on: November 04, 2014, 07:03:21 AM »
Actually this has been removed from the Ancient rules (IMO) because of the Skirmish rules.
WMF design decision was: "add missing fantasy rules on top of WMA, but do not change WMA rules and do not change WM rules added to WMA neither".

So, when building WME the evade rule has not been added since it would have break that design decision.

Noe that in the meantime we decided to change the design decision to "build a french-community set of fantasy rules derived from WM and WMA, where community could take the liberty to change existing rules if the community needs or want".
WME was born (we changed the name to make the design change obvious).

WME is here: http://www.brimarx.com/pub/wm/WME_Regles_latest.pdf.html
WME is actually has the evade rule back, but we also modified some of the WM initial rules. So far we impacted flyers only by 1/ restricting move to 60cm and 2/ restricting flyers charge to charging unit they see at the beginning of their move.

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